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Sunday, May 6, 2007

Nickel and Dimed


Tell me what two questions you are answering and then write your answers.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves? In evading and warding off wage increases, employers are of course behaving in an economically rational fashion; their business isn't to make their employees more comfortable and secure but to maximize the bottom line. The workers are afraid of getting fired. It's harder for them to "get up and go" and the poor is almost more immobile.

Why don't employees bahave in a equal rational fashion, demanding higher wages of their employers or seeking out better-paying jobs?
It's harder for the poor to quit their job and find a new one because they don't have the money to do that. Many like what their job is and they are proud of it. If they find a higher paying job it might be farther away and then it would cost more going and coming from their job. They are also afraid of getting fired if they ask for a higher-wage job.

Anonymous said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
The rich don't see the poor becuase they can disguise themselves to look like a higher class. We don't hear about poverty because we don't look for it. We don't really care. We have nothing to do with them so we overlook that. We don't see the poor in an everyday basis.

Does drug testing infringe on civil liberties?
It is an indignity. It is a violation of the fourth Amendment--unreasonable search. Come places make the employee even strip to nothing but underwear and pee in front of someone just to make sure there is nothing put in the urine to counteract the drugs. This is embarassing for the employee and also gives them the feeling of not being trustworthy... even if he/she is the most trustworthy person on Earth he/she will feel horrible because they couldn't even be trusted to pee without someone. It is definately an infringe on civil liberties.

Anonymous said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

The rich don't see the poor because they don't look for them. They live in seperate places and live seperate lives. The rich kids are sent to private schools, away from the poor kids. The rich adults go to places that the poor ones do not. They don't see each other.
We don't hear about poverty because of the media. Poverty is not a big story any more. It has been pushed to the side for someone else to figure out.

Anonymous said...

Why isn't the resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themsleves?

Workers are discouraged to stand up for themsleves. In many places, such as Wal-Mart it is taboo to even think the word Union. The law states that no one can be fired from a job for trying to form a union however you can bet that if someone like Wal-Mart finds out they will find some reason to fire you. Workers of low wage jobs loose their sence of democracy--afraid to speak and act. Their civil liberties are diluted. They are put through demeaning tests that make them believe themselves to be untrustworthy and worthless. Once one belives themself to be these two things then they believe that the wages paid are fair. They are worthless so their pay should be almost worthless.

Anonymous said...

1) Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

The poor are usually able to disguise themselves as members of the more comfortable classes. The upper classes are less and less likely to share spaces and services with the poor. Poverty seems to be "disappearing." James Fallows reported that it is "hard to understand people for whom a million dollars would be a fortune...not to mention those for whom $246 is a full week's earnings."

2) Why didn't the workers seek out better paying jobs?

The poorer people are, the more constrained their mobility is. Many poor people rides bikes to work. A better job may be farther away, which means more money spent on gas. They have ot fill out applications, be interviewed, and take drug tests. These could also cause them to stay at the lower-paying job. At each new job, people have to start over, clueless and friendless.

Anonymous said...

Does drug testing infringe on Civil liberties?
No, I believe it doesn't. I believe in some cases civil liberties can be violated and this is one of them. If it's potential that you are going to be caught for doing drugs and other illegal things, then you should be searched and punished.

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
The rich don't see the poor simply because they choose not to. They do not care that poor exist or have a heart to acknowledge their situation. They are usually too busy blowing mommy and daddy's money. You don't hear about poverty in America because it would ruin all that America stands for. One hundred or more years later we are still trying to promote the 'American Dream' but it doesn't exist anymore. Media hides poverty.

Anonymous said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? why don't we hear of poverty?

the rich neversee the poor because the nevr share the same space or services. the rich move to suburbs rather than mixed nieghborhoods. the children of rich families follow in their parents footstep making the poor disappear faster.
We dont hear much about poverty becasue if people dont see the poor they think that the problem isnt there in acuality though it iis there and it is a major problem.

2. How did i do as a low wage worker?

she gave herself a rating of a b or b+ in this category. she applauded herself for keping and holdiong all her jobs and for doing so well at them. however she did say that at each job ther were certain things that she had to relearn or learn for the first time. she gave credit for all her physical labor. she mentions that in her fifties the tasks she had accomplished was a great achievement.

Anonymous said...

1.) Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves?
-Barbara said..."In evading and warding off wage increases, employers are of course behaving in an economically rational fashion; their business isn;t to make their employees comfortable and secure but to maximize the bottom line." (204)
2.) Why didn't they just leave for a better-paying job, as I did when I moved from the Hearthside to Jerry's?
-Barbara said..."Low-wage people who don't have cars are often dependenton a relative who is willing to drop them off and pick them up again each day, sometimes on a route that includes the babysitter's house or the child care center. Change your place of work and you may be confronted with an impossible problem to solve, or atleast a reluctant driver to persuade...you have to start all over, clueless and friendless." (205)

Anonymous said...

Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves?
-In general, the low wage workers are more constrained than those making a much higher salary. Some do not even have cars, which in turn prevents them from obtaining jobs out of a certain distance range. Even if they do have a car, they then have to pay for gas. The low wage workers are also limited when it comes to information; they do not have the resources that enable them to find out who is offering the better job. In addition to this, employers do little to promote the economic literacy of their employees. Even if employees are able to overcome these obstacles, sometimes their relationships with their fellow employees prevents them from leaving.

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
-The main reason the rich do not see the poor is because they separate themselves from them. This could include sending their children to private schools or just shopping at expensive stores. We don't hear about poverty because the issue of poverty seems to be silenced. Media accounts on welfare only look at the bright side of the issue. When bad news arises, it is covered up. While shelters are providing more for the needy, we do not hear about the rest that aren't provided for. Because the upper classes do not see it, they do not think it is there.

Anonymous said...

1) Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

The rich do not see the poor because they are less likely to spend time with the poor. In general, they do not associate themselves in the same restauarants and social areas as the working poor. The poor can also disguise themselves by working at a job where a higher class generally works or by wearing clothes not typically associated with the poor. Even the media can play a large role in hiding the working class. It may not report on situations about the working poor that it should report. All of these occurances can keep the working poor "invisible".

2)If disapproval and condescension no longer apply, what outlook makes sense in regards to poverty?

As Barbara Ehrenreich puts it, shame. Shame for the fact that we depend so heavily on the work of others. We continually use the labor of poorly paid individuals to complete simple tasks such as cleaning, without truly acknowledging any problems they may face. As Barbara quotes from another coworker "you give and you give". This just shows how the working poor continually sacrifice more than the rich, without anyone taking notice of the problems.

Anonymous said...

Why isn't this resistance met by a more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves? Employers are behaving in a economically rational fashion, but why aren't employees behaving in that smae fashion? Workers will sort themselves out as effectively as marbels. They didn't leave for better paying jobs. Humans experience more friction than marbles, however. The more poor they are, them more constrained they seem to be. Employers also do little to encourage literacy to their workers.

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty? Affluent see the poor as almost invisible. The poor disguise themselves to make themselves look like they fit in a comfortable class. Affluent are less and less likely to share spaces with the poor. The Democrats and the Republicans also don't feel the need to talk about poverty to the public. People think of poverty as a consequence of unemployment.

Anonymous said...

Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves?
*he businesses are there to make money not care for the employees. The fact is that employees have "a little more "friction"." Some people depend on otheres to take them to work or to drop them off and pick them back up; either way the person might be restricted to stay in that job because of transpotational needs. Another reason is that the people/employees don't actually know how they can fight or how they can get what they want. The poor are uninformed and uneducated in the sense of knowing their civil liberties and using them for what they want. Emplyers don't want their workers to be configuring prices and doing good for themselves. Its about the money.

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
*The rich do not see the "invisible" poor because they don't care to. As the rich people go about their business many just care about getting what they need bad doing what they want to do. With that mindset, they won't see the poor making their food, doing their clothes, and cleaning the roads. Another reason why the poor are not seen by the rich is that they don't normally share spaces and services with the poor. The poor cannot afford fancy fixin's so they eat their own food or find a cheap place to eat at. The rich can afford to eat nice and when they do, they won't see the poor unless they see the servants or cooks. Poverty is not heard of anymore because people believe it is all nearly over and finished, or only in Africa. Ignorance have them thinking that there is nothing here in America.

Casey said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
Thanks to consignment stores and Wal-mart, the poor are able to disguise themselves as members of a more comfortable class. People who can afford to do so put their kids in private schools and they stay in private places like country clubs instead of the local park.

Why didn't the workers seek out higher paying jobs?
The poorer they are, the less mobility they have. Some have to ride bikes. It takes time to get a job and many don't have that time to spend. It will cost gas to get there and maybe money for the new uniform so its better to stay at the original job.

Anonymous said...

Q: Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves?

A: The workers may be motivated by fear of losing their jobs to stay quiet. It is also possible that the friendships formed on the job make it difficult to leave for better jobs or challenge authority; they may just be content with the situation.

Q: Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

A: The wealthier classes are isolated from the paths of the working poor. The wealthy do not take subways, they shop in grocery stores that cater to affluent, they prefer healthclubs to public parks. We don't hear about poverty anymore because of the lack of empathy and understanding for the lower class.

- Ariana S.

Anonymous said...

1.) How did I do as a low-wage worker?

Barbara rates herself as a B or a B+. She states that the first thing she discovered was that no job no matter how lowly, is truly "unskilled." She says that the jobs she became a part of required concentration, and most demanded new skills. She says all the jobs were physically demanding and that she learned that a lot of what we experience as strenth comes from knowing what to do with weaknesses. She learned a lot about herself.

2.)Why doesn't the Rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

The rich doesn't see the poor because they live in their own "bubble". Poor people are able to disguise themselves as having more money while rich people are able to move into other places disstancing themselves and can afford to go to places like spas where poor people would not be able to go. We don't he3ar about poverty because the media doesn't insist on showing it. They only talk about the good stories while the bad ones are left out. People would have to look very close to signs of distress in newspapers.

Anonymous said...

~*~Why don't the rich see the poor?*~*Why don't we hear about poverty?
Some odd optical property of our polarized and unequal society makes the poor almost invisible to their economic superiors. The poor can see the affluent easily enoguh...but the affluent rarely see the poor or rarely know what they are seeing. The poor are usually able to disguise themselves as members of the more comfortable middle classes. The affluent don't ride public buses or subways. They withdraw from mixed neighborhoods into more distant suburbs, gated communities, and guarded apartment towers. They shop in stores that appeal to the affluent alone. ~Americans of the newspaper-reading middle class are used to thinking of poverty as a consequence of unemployment...that's why we don't hear about it.

~*~Why didn't they just leave fer better paying jobs?
The poorer people are, the more constrained their mobility is. Many poor people rides bikes to work. They have to fill out applications, be interviewed, and take drug tests. This means that they have to basically start over at the bottom of the chain again and work their way up. Being at a job, low paid ro not, gives them a sense of individuality and responsibility. They already have friends the longer they stay at a job and that makes it harder to leave too...

Rachelle said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
Rich people don't see the poor because the media doesn't show poverty. And if people don't see it they don't think it's there.Another reason the rich don't see the poor is because they don't share the same spaces. Like restaurants or housing.

Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counter pressure from the workers themselves?
In evading and warding off wage increases employers are of course behaving in an economically rational fashion; their business isn't to make their employees more comfortable and secure but to maximize the bottom line. Basically it's harder to motivate yourself when you're on the bottom, and the workers are afraid of loosing their jobs. Some workers are happy where they are and their jobs provide identity and social networking.

Anonymous said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

The rich don't see the poor because they have seperated themselves from them. The have their own ways to avoid the poor such as health clubs and avoiding public transportation. We dont hear about the poverty in the world because the media has made it sound like poverty only means that people are unemployed.

Does Drug Testing infringe on Civil Liberties.

I think it violates the Fourth Amendment. It also creates a stigma in the employee's mind that they are constantly under watch and that they are somewhat a criminal. What's more degrading than to urinate on command? Besides this fact, it also calls for a lot more funds to the company.

Anonymous said...

Why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves?
The workers are afraid to form a resistance against their employers for several reasons. The main one is fear. they are afraid that if they start talking about higher wages they are afraid they will be fired. they cant fire them just for talking about it but they would find a reason to fire them. also, maybe they are content with where they are in their career.


Does drug testing infringe on civil liberties?
No i feel that this is fully within the employers rights to test their employees for drugs. the foourth amendment says no unreasonable searches, but this is not unreasonable. they dont have to do it if they dont want to. no one is forcing them to do it. Plus an employer has the right to know what kind of people are working for them.

Stella said...

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
The rich and the poor are in two different worlds. They do not share the same space or daily life. The children of the rich are sent to private schools and then follow into their parents steps. The rich dont ignore or not care about the poor but they just choose not to notice them. I believe that the poor also are starting to blend in because of the clothing from thrift shops and such. We dont hear about poverty in America because the media doesnt show it and poverty is hidden pretty much.

Why didn't the workers seek out better paying jobs?
The workers couldnt get better payin jobs cause they are immobile and have a hard time getting to work. Applying somewhere else they would have to do interviews and drug tests and be driven everywhere which would be difficult for them. Also the workers would be starting all over and have to start from scratch.

Anonymous said...

Why don't the rich see the poor & why don't we hear about poverty?

It is because the rich never see the poor people on t.v. and in magazines, so how are they supposed to know about them? The rich also never share space with the poor people, the wealthy spend time at clubs and I highly doubt that there would be a poor person in a health club or wountry club. even young rich kids are being blinded from seeing the poor, they can get sent to expensive private schools and some opt not to have a summer job, instead they take extra classes and internships.

Why didn't the workers just seek out better paying jobs?

There are a number of reasons why most workers did not seek better paying jobs. One: their transportation funds are restricted. Two: why leave a job and not have a pay for about two weeks? That is really hard for a person who survives pay stub to pay stub. When starting at a new job it is like starting at the bottom of a ladder and working your way back up again..new friends, routines, new everything.

Anonymous said...

why isn't this resistance met by more effective counterpressure from the workers themselves? employers jobs is not to make employees more comfortalble but to maximize the bottom line.

Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?
the rich don't want to see the poor. no body wants to here about the poor because it is sad.

Anonymous said...

How well did I do in Life in general?

Barb gpes off on a tangent saying or explaining how inefficient she was in the areas of the country she attempted to live in, however she consistently said of what she thought would have happened if she stayed in that situation or what would have improved or how well she was about to do. Ironically she says the truly poor spend their time daydreaming about the future; fixated on turning tides and the salvation hiding expectently around the corner, however they think these things for years and something always goes wrong.

Anonymous said...

Opps forgot to do the other question.

#2.) Why don't the rich see the poor? Why don't we hear about poverty?

THe poor can disguise themselves involuntarily as more middle-class people. Rich share less and less space and services with the poor. They literaly see less of them. It is becoming harder for American's to change their class. A reason we don't hear about it is because the newspapers press and media don't consider it top priority newes, and those buying their paper are the middle class so why bother them with time about the poor's troubles. We don't have a patience for them, understand them or necessarily even care about them enough to do something about it. Besides the point doing something about it would narrow the gap between the middle class and the poor. The middle class doesn't really want that.